Dragon Ball Super

[Gokuhi]

Désolé pour le pavé :s au départ je voulais juste m'arrêter à une phrase, mais j'aime beaucoup analyser pourquoi c'est mauvais avec autre chose que des critiques négatives sans exemples et peser le tout avec le positif pour arriver à une conclusion.

Evidemment j'ai été défenseur de DBS, vous imaginez bien que ça me choque d'autant plus, surtout que la dégradation exceptionnelle de la licence est bien réelle.

Je voudrais tout de même rappeler, que Toriyama, n'a pas de grand pouvoir sur la licence animée, et on consulte encore moins le monsieur semaine après semaine pour valider ou non un script.

Le webmaster du site Kaizenshu alias VegettoEX:

So here's the deal:

The Dragon Ball Super TV series is the "main product". It is the actual thing being produced as the basis for other products. Anything else is a sub-product made in promotion of it. This includes the manga in V-Jump, video game material, etc. The manga hitting up story material ahead of the TV series does not somehow change its status.

In terms of the manga: No. It is not "written by Akira Toriyama" in any sense of the phrase that people normally think. Akira Toriyama is simply credited as the "Original Author" (原作 or gensaku), which is the same credit he receives for anything produced under the "Dragon Ball" banner (theatrical movies, spin-offs, video games, etc.). It does not imply anything more. It's just an acknowledgement that he is the one who created the series in the first place.

Toyotarō is credited with the manga itself; he's responsible for all of its illustrations.



The bigger question is who writes the actual dialog and underlying direction for the story. We know it's not Toriyama is sitting there dictating things, because that's the kind of thing they hype up and OVER-promote. We know each and every time he directly contributes something like that. You can swipe that aside because it's not relevant here. Toriyama does not "work on" the Dragon Ball Super manga in any real sense.

Toyotarō is very likely given some free reign to include little nods and jokes (such as the "Soup Yasai Jinkot" pun in the first chapter) all on his own with no direct request or stipulation from the editorial management. That being said, he's also of course being given at the very least rough outlines of upcoming material, and in the best case scenarios, actual drafts/keyframes/scripts of upcoming material. There was a distinct difference in how his Battle of Gods manga material ended compared to what happened in the TV series, but other than that the big, important, relevant pieces have all been spot-on.

So while Toyotarō is "writing" the manga, he's also basically being told what to write. He's just allowed to put his own flair onto it in small ways.

And that goes back to how I started this post: the Dragon Ball Super TV series is the original product. Whatever Toriyama's involvement is in that (which, as we know, is basically the character designs and underlying plot points for the Champa / Universe 6 material), that trickles down and I suppose could be seen as "involvement" in the manga. It's like how Stan Lee created the X-Men and Chris Claremont is responsible for the Days of Future Past storyline. So in some respect, both Lee and Claremont had some "hand" or "involvement" from a trickle-down effect on the 2014 theatrical Days of Future Past film, because they're the ones who set the precedent for the characters and the broad strokes of the story.

Toriyama does not write the manga, much like he does not actually script out storyboards and dialog for the anime episodes.

Hopefully that helps! Happy to help clarify further if need be.